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Blown 125sx
started by Savage-CR
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February 22nd 2010 at 8:13 PM
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Savage-CR
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Some guy wants to trade my 1996 Kawasaki KX250 for their 2003 125sx. The 125 has a blown top end and he said he will add $200. The KTM dealer told me as long as the bike turns over freely its the top end but when they seize its in the bottom end. this guy says the bike turns over freely and all is well. I'm going to have a look at this bike and I'm going to pull the fly wheel cover to check the crank baering play. I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the matter? Also what everyone's experiences are with blown up bikes? Not buying blown up bikes just blowing your own and what not.
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February 22nd 2010 at 9:11 PM
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DarksideCR
My givadamn broke and I aint fucking fixing it!
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id keep your running 125cc extra bike you have now. The year doesn't make a difference. Bikes have been the same forever. a blown up bike could have many things wrong with it. The cylinder could be scratched, chipped. The head can be damaged, little peices of metal down in the crank. Id keep your bike.
The honda revolution continues!
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February 23rd 2010 at 8:23 PM
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Rhythm
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Current Dirtbike: '03 YZ 250
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I would look into it, but chances are that if they are willing to trade their 2003 125 not running for your 1996 250 running, then their 125 must be in a lot worse shape then your 250.
Top ends on a two stroke aren't all that much and if you have the skill to do it yourself then you will end up with a descent bike in the end. But like you said I would be making sure the crank is good.
'03 YZ 250
Tag bar clamps, titanium 200 foot pegs, Rental American Addition bars, RG3 suspenion, Hotwheels graphics, Griper seat cover, and Carlsbad tires.
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February 24th 2010 at 6:37 AM
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Savage-CR
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well that bike blown up is only worth about $1300 here and he is adding $200 on top. I paid $1300 for my bike but can get $1500 for it. He said he didn't mind if I pulled some small stuff off as long as I took the bike or put it back on.
I got prices from the KTM dealer on parts and a Vertex piston for it is only $130. Crank bearings are $100 for one side and $30 for the other. A base gasket is $15 and the head gasket is O-rings that I'm going to try re-use, if not they're $20 for a pair. If its just a top end I can fix it with the money he is adding on top. He said if I didn't trade him he was just going to take it in to his school and get them to rebuild it.
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February 24th 2010 at 7:44 AM
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MX86
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Never re-use piston rings, especially on a 2 stroke
Living Life 1 berm at a time.
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February 24th 2010 at 11:57 AM
[ Modified February 24th 2010 at 12:11 PM
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DarksideCR
My givadamn broke and I aint fucking fixing it!
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Id never reuse anything out of an engine! Not even coolant!
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February 24th 2010 at 2:56 PM
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Savage-CR
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Haha, I was talking about the head gasket being O-rings and re-using them if they are alright. I would never re-use piston rings.
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February 24th 2010 at 6:18 PM
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MX86
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if they have ever been tightened down i would never re-use them
Living Life 1 berm at a time.
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February 24th 2010 at 7:00 PM
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Dekk
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We have done if before when rebuilding my dads snowmobile, it works but I sure don't recomend it.
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February 25th 2010 at 6:26 AM
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Savage-CR
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Well in the diesel shop I did co-op at we re-used lots of stuff like that. As long as the rubber isn't cracked then its still good. The rubber doesn't compress at all. On the wet sleeves in a diesel if the o-rings are twisted it will eventually push the sleeve into the piston and wreck the piston and sleeve. Which is why I figured I could re-use them if they looked alright.
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February 25th 2010 at 10:56 PM
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DarksideCR
My givadamn broke and I aint fucking fixing it!
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Diesels are bullet proof. Your comparing apples to oranges.
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February 26th 2010 at 8:59 PM
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Savage-CR
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Well it was blown up pretty good. The cylinder needed to be nickasiled and it needed a bottom end done too. I don't think I'll be trading haha.
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February 26th 2010 at 9:22 PM
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DarksideCR
My givadamn broke and I aint fucking fixing it!
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I told ya so 
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February 27th 2010 at 7:02 AM
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Savage-CR
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Haha, well I had to go look at it, just in case.
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March 2nd 2010 at 7:39 PM
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Savage-CR
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Well, buddy said he would add $1000 so I'm trading now haha.
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March 2nd 2010 at 8:03 PM
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MX86
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add a grand to the purchase? now that raises a big red flag to me of why he's so anxious to get rid of that bike...
Living Life 1 berm at a time.
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March 2nd 2010 at 9:40 PM
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DarksideCR
My givadamn broke and I aint fucking fixing it!
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x2, Maybe theres a guy out there wondering where is sx125 should be. Get the vin number on the bike and see if its stolen, maybe youll get a decent reward.
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March 2nd 2010 at 11:04 PM
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MX4life
lovin' the 2 stroke
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I went with savage to go look at this bike. The guy dident seem to know alot about it, he said he lent the bike to his friend and he blew the motor.
2002 Honda CR250R
1986 Honda XR100R
2002 Honda CR125R(SOLD)
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March 3rd 2010 at 6:27 AM
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Savage-CR
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Well I'm going to get a bill of sale with it from him and the VIN was still there. He has a lot of balls to bring me to his house and sell me something stolen though if that is the case.
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March 3rd 2010 at 7:40 AM
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MX86
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you'd be surprised...
Living Life 1 berm at a time.
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March 3rd 2010 at 2:41 PM
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Savage-CR
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Well all I can do is hope. He said he wants to trade because he needs something to get to work on everyday. He also said if I didn't make up my mind soon about the trade than the bike wasn't going to be available because he was going to get his school's auto teacher to rebuild it.
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